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Which degree do you think is better?
Posted: 21 October 2009 04:52 PM

Hi there, I’m new to this site so just thought I’d start a little topic to see what everyone thinks.

Im at Northumbria Uni doing their new M-Law Exempting degree, which includes the LLB, LLM and LPC/BVC (depeneding on which you choose.)

In year 2 we have to choose from 4 options of degrees;

1) Complete a 3 year degree in which you just graduate with a LLB
2) Complete a 5 year degree, with LLB, LLM AND LPC
4) Complete a 4 year degree with LLB and BVC
5) Complete a 4 year degree with LLM and LPC

Which would you choose?

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Andr (162 Posts) - Power User
Posted: 21 October 2009 06:05 PM

Well it depends on whether you wish to practice at the Bar or not, thus LPC or BVC (which should read BPTC now). And the LLM is internationally recognised so is a big plus.

Given the choice i’d do 2) probably, and if not then 4) if wanting a quicker option.

However, you could just do the 3 year degree then do the LLM, LPC, BPTC post grad anyways.

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Sean (42 Posts) - Heavy User
Posted: 21 October 2009 06:22 PM

What are the fees like for this?

Andr (162 Posts) - Power User
Posted: 21 October 2009 06:31 PM

Good thinking Sean as could be cheaper…but doubtful its a great difference i wouldnt have thought.

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Sean (42 Posts) - Heavy User
Posted: 21 October 2009 06:33 PM

Well Bournemouth do a v cheap LPC, and a LLM is what 4k in cost normally?
BVC is costly though.

Andr (162 Posts) - Power User
Posted: 21 October 2009 06:44 PM

Yeah the BVC is usually the real pocket damage.

Bournemouth ah? That was a choice of mine for university.

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Sean (42 Posts) - Heavy User
Posted: 21 October 2009 06:52 PM

It’s something like 8 grand apprantly, cheapest lpc in the country.
BPP want twice that for a BPTC!

Andr (162 Posts) - Power User
Posted: 21 October 2009 07:00 PM

Ouch! i remember when i was still set on doing it i was looking at 10k-12k!

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Posted: 22 October 2009 08:32 AM

Im leaning more towards the 5year degree simply because of the qualifications you get at the end and it does work out a lot cheaper, we don’t pay extra for the LLM (apart from obviously paying to be at uni an extra year or so) and we’ve started paying for the LPC/BVC now, we pay 900 a year each year that we are here.

By the way, what does the new name for the BVC mean?

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Andr (162 Posts) - Power User
Posted: 22 October 2009 09:12 AM

Bar Professional Training Course (BPTC)

If your sure thats what you wish to persue then it sounds pretty good, as by the sounds of it means youve definetly got the place to do the LPC and LLM. Is that 900 a year each year for the 5 years? Thus 4500, then tuition on top?

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Posted: 22 October 2009 11:22 AM

Aaah i see, none of the lecturers have mentioned a change of name on the BVC.

Yeah its on top of the normal tution fee, so from what ive been told it still works out cheaper in the long run.

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Andr (162 Posts) - Power User
Posted: 22 October 2009 01:19 PM

Yeah seems quite a good deal if thats what you wish to do, and sounds like a guaranteed place as well, which is even better!

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Posted: 24 October 2009 02:13 PM

Bloody good question mclean! I’d have to opt for option 5 on that, so long as you choose a good LLM (in other words, an LLM that relates to the work of the employer you seek to work for).

In fact, saying that, I can’t imagine many 17 year olds having much of an idea on which area of law and which firm they want to work for. If you do though, definitely the best option.

What’s Northumbria like anyway Mclean? And newcastle? I heard it’s a great student city!

Posted: 28 October 2009 11:44 AM

Im not sure what type of law i want to do just yet, although I think Id enjoy Family. By the way - Im nearly 21 - not 17! Im a late starter! lol.

Northumbria is good, brand new buildings so its very clean and modern, cant say the same for newcastle though im afraid, but maybes thats because ive lived in newcastle all my life. smile

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Posted: 10 May 2010 03:44 PM

Hey, I’m in the same situation (at Northumbria) and trying to decide which route I want to go down. Apparently we have to decide by January too…bit soon :S

Beth (68 Posts) - Power User
Posted: 11 May 2010 02:20 PM

Personally, I would go with option 4 or 5, depending on whether you want to be a solicitor or a barrister. I don’t see the point of an LLM unless:

1) It’s in an area you’re sure you want to practice in or
2) It’s from a top uni, which Northumbria is not (the Times ranks it 45th for law and 64 overall) or
3) You’re trying to make up for a 2.2 in your first degree result—and probably not even then

Otherwise, an LLM is just a waste of a year and some money.

   
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