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LauraB (1 Posts) - New User
Posted: 26 July 2010 03:18 PM

I have just completed my 1st year on a LLB course in Liverpool. Prior to studying in university I completed a Legal Secretarial Diploma and gained Distinctions across the board.
Ever since I started the Legal Secretary course I have been looking for work experience, offering to work 9-5 every day in holidays for no money whatsoever. Yet, nearly 3 years on I am still looking for experience.

I would have thought in this current economic climate businesses would want “free labour” to cover sick days, maternity leave, holidays etc.

I have sent thousands of applications, cover notes, you name it, I have done it, even going into Law firms and handing CV and cover note in. On a few occassions I have been lucky enough to have spoke to a partner in person. However, despite all this, in the 3 years I have been looking, I have had 2 replies back.

I was just wondering if anyone has had this problem too, or for those who have had work experience, any tips on what I am doing wrong?

If anyone knows any firms in the Liverpool area who would take me on for work experience, please let me know!!

It is very discouraging when I dont even get a reply to say no!

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Posted: 26 July 2010 06:42 PM

Laura,

I can sympathise with your situation as I have faced the same problem in the last two years. I have been applying (unsuccessfully) to summer work experience placements and internships that firms and the public sector offer and I have now finished my degree having got little or no real work experience.

That said, you are doing all the right things. I presume you have also been applying to the firms advertised placements, not merely applying speculatively? Many firms have applications on their website, the larger firms closing dates are often as early as September or October for a placement the following summer so keep an eye out and make sure you don’t miss those deadlines!

I sent out 99 CVs and personalised cover letters to firms in mid June this year. I received only two positive responses for unpaid work experience.  One was from a firm in Orkney (I live in Glasgow!) and the other was from a firm in Dumfries. As I am willing to travel and work unpaid, I have accepted these offers, but it just shows you how flexible you have to be if you really want the experience.

My advice is, don’t give up. Apply to firms outside your local vicinity (if possible) and from my experience, the more remote the area is, the more positive the response can be. Act early, (which you’re doing anyway) as I am fairly sure that had I sent out my CVs before June I might have had more offers. Don’t be put off by negative responses, you will get there if you try hard enough. Many firms specify that they don’t take on work experience students until their final or penultimate year, so that might be why you have been unsuccessful so far.

One of my friends landed continuous unpaid work experience one day a week by making an appointment with a solicitor in her area, having researched him and the cases that he had been involved in and just sold herself to him.  That takes balls and not everyone would feel comfortable with doing that, but if you think you can do it, give it a go!

The only other thing I can suggest is getting involved in ALL of the University extra curricular activities relating to law and ones outside of uni too. That means joining the law society and mooting clubs, applying for a position within the society (you don’t need to be in your final year - it’s just most applicants will be final year students) and think about voluntary work. I recommend volunteering with the Witness Service one day a week which will be at your nearest court.  Another relevant organisation is Citizens Advice, who also take on volunteers one day a week.

Put all of that on your CV including your law grades and the areas of law that you are interested in and you will get something eventually. Just remember, it’s no reflection on you personally, or your skills; the competition is just so tough at the moment with the limited amount of traineeships and opportunities that are around. The market will pick up again, unfortunately we all need to be patient and persevere.

Hope that helps a little.

Good luck!

Regards,

Laura

Hopeful (82 Posts) - Power User
Posted: 27 July 2010 04:09 PM

Some really good advice from the above poster!  I would add:

- take your CV and covering letter to your uni careers service for them to check and amend

- try to use any personal contacts your or your family have to gain work experience (e.g. does someone you know work in a law firm? if so you may be able to ask them to arrange a day of shadowing)

- sign up with some temping agenices (likely to be of limited success but worth a try)

- try to address your letters to a named person (e.g. use the Law Society’s Find a Solicitor search or the firm’s website to find who youshould be writing too) - this may ensure that your letter lands on the right desk!

- put any extra-curricular activities on your CV as these show teamwork etc

Good luck!

Beth (68 Posts) - Power User
Posted: 28 July 2010 08:58 AM

One problem you may be having is that the National Minimum Wage Act makes it much more difficult for firms to take on unpaid staff to do “core tasks”. If you’re doing holiday cover for paid staff, you really should be paid! Law firms are probably more likely to be aware of the NMWA than other employers and less likely to be happy to casually break the law.

I second Hopeful’s suggestion about temp agencies. Try and find out which ones in your area have legal clients and see if you can get a foot in the door that way. I also second the advice about looking for formal work experience/vac schemes. If firms have these procedures in place, they are less likely to take people applying on spec.

The market is tough right now. I’m very glad not to be an undergrad/recent grad at the moment.

   
 
 
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